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Thema: What does the fire of Notre Dame mean for France ?

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    First of all, Macron's big speech was announced, which was supposed to defuse the problems of the French. Just one hour before Notre Dame burns. The speech was omitted, the President hurried to the scene of the fire, together with his wife. Trump recommends the use of fire-fighting planes via Twitter and shows that he really has no idea about gothic cathedrals. Politicians from all over the world express their regret about the loss of the church for Paris, France, Europe, the whole world. Urbi et orbi!
    Of course it is sad when one of the most important buildings goes up in flames.
    But, could it not be more? Last Saturday was the 22nd Saturday on which the gillets jaunes demonstrated. There were several deaths and dozens of eyes were shot out.
    Isn't it necessary to see an omen in the fire of the church ?
    Given the situation in France, the fire may be a signal for far-reaching changes. And I am not talking about free food for preschoolers, additional alms for the poor and less taxes for the poor middle class of France !

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    Standard AW: What does the fire of Notre Dame mean for France ?

    Wars distract the people from the real problems. Whether a church fire serves the same purpose remains to be seen.


    In any case, it is strange that without investigation, a few hours after the fire, it was declared an accident.


    Usually it takes weeks, often even months until the real cause of the fire is found.


    In any case, massive "manifestations" were already announced for Saturday. Macron's speech had also been eagerly awaited. Although criticism had already been voiced in advance, almost half of the French had hopes for a solution.


    The point is probably that further tax increases are planned, while pensions, for example, are to be cut. What is happening at the moment is an austerity programme à la Greece. But in a gentle and French manner.


    Although it is very sad that Notre Dame burned, we must not forget that there are much more burning problems in Europe.

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    Standard AW: What does the fire of Notre Dame mean for France ?

    It was astonishing that the conspiracy theories had already emerged during the fire. There was the official explanation, while the roof was still burning brightly, that it was an accident. Later, the press rowed back again and claimed that the Commander had only been misunderstood. Absolute bullshit ! I saw the fire live on French television and the statement was absolutely clear: an accident.


    Then the assertion appeared that there were two sources of fire, which put the accident into question again.


    There was also the "breakdown" on youtube, where the fire was compared to 911 for hours. And on CNN two people were rudely interrupted during an interview because they were spouting "conspiracy theories".


    What did Macron want to say to his people in the announced speech to the nation? Well, there had been a fire an hour earlier, so they will probably never know what he wanted to say. The savings measures and necessary reforms have become unimportant for the time being due to the fire. Because now you can make patriotism and conjure up the cohesion of the nation.


    I am curious to see how the yellow vests see this and how they react or act on Saturday.


    For further information : at Google More images for incendie criminel notre dame


    Incendie criminel doesn't mean "accident," by the way

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    Standard AW: What does the fire of Notre Dame mean for France ?

    The cause of the fire will certainly be clarified sooner or later or not. It is still too early for any speculations.


    Nevertheless, Notre Dame is not only an extraordinary cultural monument for the French but also belongs to the occidental culture, the Christian religions and traditions of the Europeans. Not to forget the unique architectural masterpiece of that time. It would be desirable if the partial destruction of the church would make it possible for us and our occidental culture and identity to be remembered. Due to the Americanisation in the post-war period, we have lost some of the things that have shaped us for thousands of years, many things were good, many things less. You can learn from your history, if you want to.


    Nevertheless, the European cultural peoples should not forget to respect and protect the cultural monuments of other peoples and religions as well. Let me give the example of the ancient oasis city of Palmyra in Syria, which was largely destroyed with our money, weapons and ammunition. I have not noticed an outcry in Europe in this regard. A return to ourselves and respect for others would be a gain.

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    What does the fire of Notre Dame mean for France ?
    The hope that the fire of Notre Dame would create a new sense of community among the French has not been fulfilled. The tensions are still there and seem to be building up. The gillets jaunes protest week after week and have become the strongest "protest group" in France.
    Whatever the fire of Notre Dame was supposed to do, it has long since been lost in the everyday business and worries of the French.


    As far as the cause of the fire is concerned, I personally do not want to exclude the possibility that the dust accumulated over the centuries (dust mullet) in combination with bird feathers, cobwebs etc. can ignite a beam by flying sparks or a short circuit. The influence of the centuries must also be taken into account for the beams / rafters. The wood may be damaged or simply cracked due to weathering. The interfaces opened in this way are in turn more easily ignited than a solid beam.

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